BB Torch 9800 :: Clock Speed Is Not An Indicator Of Processing Power
Sep 11, 2010
First off, I returned my Torch because of software problems that I couldn't wait to be fixed; namely the BT streaming glitch. That said, I have noticed some commentary regarding the Torch processor speed that I see as seriously ignorant and wanted to provide some insight.Processing power is not a function of clock speed. Processing power is a function of the elegance of the instruction set, the design of the processor's peripheral registers and buses, and the programmer's competence.What does this mean? A very simple processor will have lots and lots of instructions that you can use to build the machine code. Also, a simple processor will have registers to accept instructions and registers to respond linearly to what was input, with no peripheral registers. Think of a box with a chute where something comes in and a chute of identical size where something comes out. In contrast, an elegant processor design will have very few instructions, will have peripheral registers, and require a much more intelligent programmer to utilize.
For this type of processor imagine a box with a chute where something comes in, a chute where something comes out, and chutes all around the sides of the box where specific products automatically come out that can be used to make something without more coming into the "input" chute. FYI, the elegant processor has fewer instructions because it already performs automatically many of the functions that require an instruction and extra clock cycle on simple processors.
A processor works by taking the product that comes out, storing it, waiting for more product to come out, then combining products to come up with usable data. Obviously the faster you pump out products, the faster you make something usable. But what if the elegant processor has products coming out the side chutes automatically, without being told by the programmer, that can be used to keep from having to input and output info over and over to come up with the same end product? Well, it can work more slowly and accomplish more in less time, because the design is sophisticated and the programmer knows how to instruct it. Think of the products coming out of the side chutes on a good processor as products that come out the end on simple processors. The simple processor needs extra instructions, and consequently extra clock cycles of output going to the input over and over, to make specific products come out that the elegant processor simply places on the side chutes without being asked. For this reason, good processors usually have fewer instructions to use.
Let's go back to the year 1997. You had Intel Pentium, AMD Athlon and Duron, and Motorola processors, in general. Intel has always had many instructions, few peripheral registers, and fast clock speeds. Motorola always had a very simple instruction set, peripheral registers, and relatively slow clock speeds. AMD fit in between.What did everyone buy? Well, of course Intel because Intel was faster. But guess what? My AMD at 700 MHz smoked the crap out of an Intel at 1 GHz. Did the Intel fan boys care, or know what they were talking about? Of course not. We all know that old Macs with Motorolas killed PCs with Intel processors of identical speed and did not require ultra high processing speeds such as Intel.
Intels have historically been designed for newbs to utilize. They have (or at least had) an instruction set and overall design that requires an ignorant programmer to use clock cycles for every single calculation. The Motorola was designed for intelligent people to program however. The Motorola will yield usable data(on the side chutes) that can be used, or not used, for every clock cycle that can be combined with output to effectively stack data in one clock cycle that an Intel will need at least 2-3 cycles to produce by going from output to input over and over. Thus, the Intel has to be significantly faster than the competition to do the same work. I suspect that Intel, over the last 10-12 years, has caught up with the overall quality of its processors because the top speed is changing little while their productivity is rising quickly.
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Dec 27, 2010
my phone is not sending texts and every time I try to send one, a little red clock appears, does anyone know what this means?
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Is there anyway I could speed up the processing speed of my phone? and is there a hardware upgrade i could get such as get an a4 processing chip installed into it?
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Oct 19, 2011
I have been using BB torch 9800 from last one year . From last 3 days i have been getting very slow speed of my cell & the battery is also discharging very fast. I had backed up my phone thru sofware 7 removed the videos/Snaps. Still there is no improvement in the speed. Also i have not installed any new theam/apps on my cell. whatever the theme was there at the time of purches i am running on the same. Even the empty space of memory is 4.00GB on memory card.Also how to update the basic files which comes with the phone at the time of purchase? As i do not know how to update that.
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Jan 6, 2012
I am a Blackberry Torch 9800 user. I have a notification indicator on my phone that I cannot identify. It is a white circle with a black background. It has a white, diagonal arrow with the end protruding out of the circle and the arrow end inside the circle. It has a number 1 next to it. It does not have red asterisk. I am unable to find a way to make the indicator go away.
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Dec 20, 2011
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Oct 13, 2012
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Nov 29, 2010
I have a Torch 9800 - when I charge it up via the mini USB wall charger, it automatically switches to bedside mode and the clock comes on - I want the clock to appear like that when the backlight times out. I know this will be a battery drainer, but it will be very convenient to pull the phone out of my pocket to check the time - does anyone know of an app that will do this? I've checked several screensavers and they only work until the backlight times out
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Sep 23, 2011
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I Was wondering what games are out that can really utilize the amazing processing power of this phone? My areas of interest are Racing games and RPGs ( The more old school the b7vetter).
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Oct 4, 2011
The clock on my Blackberry Torch 9800 is running slow, about 10 mins per day
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Nov 3, 2012
my BB torch isn't working it just gives the black clock at the middle of the screen without any response keeps loading for a while and no response
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Aug 16, 2010
Q) How can you power the phone down?
When the phone is off, it seems that a simple tap of the Red power button turns the phone on again. This seems like a design flaw. All other non BB devices that I know off require you to hold the power button for a couple of seconds to turn it back on.This prevents the phone from accidently being turned on.
Let me explain a use case. When you are flying you have to turn your phones off.So the normal procedure is to hold the red hang up key and the phone will power down. This is as expected.Assume you then put the BlackBerry device in the seat pocket in front of you.Midway through the flight you hit your knee against the seat pocket.The red power button it tapped during this process.The phone now powers on.You are about to land and your phone rings.The flight attendant and the passengers all give you unpleasant looks through no real fault of your own.This type of issue has occurred a few times.
I realize you can go in and manually turn off phone connections but this is an extra step.Turning the phone off should take care of this and there should stay off until the user wants to turn it on.
I see this behaviour on my 8310 and 8900 and 9800.I hope there is something simple I'm missing??
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Apr 29, 2011
I noticed an article this morning on BB7 phones, but I just had this happend for the 4th time on a 9800 running BB6 (last time was this morning).I'm getting aggrivated becuase my alarm isn't going off and its making me late for work. I'm leaving the phone on alL night now, which I would like to put it to sleep.
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Jan 23, 2012
I'm traveling to London, England this upcoming week and purchased a Power Converter/ Adapter with a USB port. When I plugged the Blackberry into the USB, it said the charging device doesn't have enough power to charge the Blackberry. It says the USB output is 5VDC, 1 A max.How much power is required to charge the Blackberry and do you have any recommendations for power converters/adapters that are compatible with the Torch?
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Sep 1, 2011
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Oct 19, 2011
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Aug 25, 2010
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Maybe it would be better to redo my settings after the data install to make sure all is clean and working correctly. Some of the 5.0 setting would not be applicable to the new 6.0 software.
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